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Mahroos Siddiquee Nadim

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Fails WP:NSPORT Theroadislong (talk) 09:50, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 10:49, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete. Tagged under criterion G4 since the page appears to be an exact copy of the one that was deleted back in April. CycloneYoris ^talk! 11:04, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - still fails WP:GNG and NSPORT by quite some way Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:33, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Dhor (Caste)

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Unsourced, stands on single source, Caste POV, Fails GNG. Dolphish (talk) 08:14, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per nomination, single source article. Lack of indepth coverage. Behappyyar (talk) 10:29, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

J-King (rapper)

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Rapper not yet notable for an article here. Only sources available for them are from music streaming sites which are not RS Ednabrenze (talk) 07:21, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep — The article now includes multiple independent, reliable sources such as GMA News and The Philippine Star. The Philstar article explicitly describes J-King as a “sikat na fliptop rapper” and provides substantial coverage of a notable public event, meeting the notability criteria for musicians. Additional sources verify his career in the FlipTop Battle League and other public appearances. ~~ Jarel Zoldyck (talk) 11:29, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have also edited the article name form "J-King (rapper)" to "J-King (Julius Cenon)". He is also a verified artist in Spotify with more than 20 million streams. Jarel Zoldyck (talk) 11:31, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Raj Gonds

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Not notable, stands on single source which is unreliable, Fails GNG. Dolphish (talk) 07:11, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per nomination, single source article. Didn't find any think in depth. Behappyyar (talk) 10:28, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Palshi

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Not notable, unsourced, not in coverage. Dolphish (talk) 07:08, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per nomination, unsourced article. Didn't find any think in depth during quick search. Behappyyar (talk) 10:27, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mathur Vaishya

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Not notable, unsourced. Dolphish (talk) 07:05, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per mention, unsourced article. Didn't find any think in depth about the cast. Behappyyar (talk) 10:25, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

James Bannon (entrepreneur)

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BLP of a man who has had an interesting life and has a clear digital footprint but I can’t see how he’s notable. Devised a one man show, does charity work and had an interesting police career, but this isn’t the stuff of notability. Mccapra (talk) 07:00, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – Subject appears to meet WP:GNG based on multiple independent, reliable sources that provide significant coverage, including The Independent, BBC, and British Comedy Guide. His autobiographical book “Running with the Firm” was published by a major publishing house (Ebury, Penguin Random House) and remained on The Sunday Times bestseller list for 13 weeks, satisfying WP:AUTHOR. The book’s adaptation into a stage play performed at notable venues and his appearance in mainstream documentaries further demonstrate cultural impact. While some citations are primary, the independent coverage is sufficient to establish notability. The article would benefit from additional secondary sources and trimming unsourced detail, but notability appears established.

Sweetabena (talk) 07:17, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I shared this, as he was noticeably absent in Wiki, unlike many of his co-stars and colleagues. He appears to have had an extraordinarily varied and colourful career. His autobiographical book still has a cult following, as does the film I.D which was made about his story. He has made money in property as a developer, owned an airline that flew A-list bands including Coldplay, done stand-up comedy, acted in numerous films, and is now the Chairman of a publicly listed company in the UK. He is an Ambassador for the Kings Trust. Wordswillflow (talk) 09:22, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

” owned an airline that flew A-list bands including Coldplay” pretty much sums it up for me. Mccapra (talk) 09:48, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't think this is a notable, then it can by all means be deleted. Wordswillflow (talk) 10:10, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I see we are now up to thirty references, but adding more primary and affiliated sources doesn’t help demonstrate notability. Is there any in-depth independent coverage? Mccapra (talk) 10:09, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not that I have. If editors think this is not notable, then so be it. Wordswillflow (talk) 10:11, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gav Paradhi

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Not notable, unsourced. Dolphish (talk) 07:00, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom, didn't find anything reliable on quick search. Behappyyar (talk) 10:23, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ashok Sharma (cricketer)

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Fails WP:NSPORT (cricket) and WP:GNG. There is no evidence the subject has played a first-class, List A, or recognized top-level T20 match, so he does not meet the sport-specific SNG for cricketers. LvivLark (talk) 21:08, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Has never played in any matches of status. AA (talk) 23:02, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete he was selected in IPL but didn't play a single match. Behappyyar (talk) 03:46, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deidre Willmott

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Not notable as bussiness person or politician. Prod was placed by someone else and removed for procedural reason. Previous afd in 2011 closed as no consensus. Rolluik (talk) 20:56, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Molly Gibson

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Notable for one event WP:BLP1E, there is not coverage after her birth. Searches just yield coverage from about a week around the event. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 20:35, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per BLP1E. The medical progress is adequately covered, without mentioning her name, in Embryo cryopreservation where it belongs. PamD 08:00, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per PamD and BLP1E. The medical advance is notable, but there's no need to associate it with the child's name when she is otherwise obviously not a public figure. MCE89 (talk) 11:24, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Embryo cryopreservation as an ATD. Selective merge it as it is a notable case of it and it is a possible search term and maybe tagged it with {{r with possibilities}} if she receives continued more coverage later in her life. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 11:29, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This would normally be a sensible ATD, but I think we should be hesitant to create this redirect for a 4-year-old child who may want privacy later in her life. I don't see why there is anything of encyclopedic value about mentioning her name in that article. MCE89 (talk) 12:10, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ana Alexander (actress)

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Fails WP:GNG/WP:NPERSON and WP:NACTOR. The article is a minimally sourced filmography with no significant, independent secondary coverage about the subject. Current citations are a TV Guide entry and an Amazon page, plus an unrelated ratings post; these are not sufficient per WP:RS and do not demonstrate notability. Searches locate mostly database listings, social media, and fan/fandom wikis rather than in-depth profiles or reporting. LvivLark (talk) 20:36, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. fails WP:NACTOR. Pizza on Pineapple ^{(Let's eat🍕)} 09:38, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Arons (musician)

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Unclear notability. Lacking significant coverage in reliable sources. I'm not seeing much coverage of this musician beyond sensationalist articles such as this ([1]). I also cannot find information of this person on the official Grammy website to support the claim that he has won a Grammy. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 18:27, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Went viral, [2], which is also mentioned in the People article. That's not quite enough I don't think. The rest of the sourcing isn't in RS or is blogs and the like. Not enough for notability at this time. Oaktree b (talk) 20:02, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Sonaram Chutia

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The subject fails to meet the guidelines for WP:GNG due to a lack of significant coverage from independent, reliable sources. The existing sources do not discuss the subject in depth or in length, and they do not meet the verification requirements. Currently, the available sources are either not independent or not reliable. If anyone can provide independent, reliable sources in the Thai language, please do so, and we will review them to determine if they meet the necessary criteria. At this time, we are unable to locate the required sources. Please note that sources from social media, organizations, institutions, foundations, private companies, or any other entities connected to the subject, as well as interview articles, are considered unreliable and/or not independent and cannot be used to satisfy the notability requirements. Cassiopeia talk 01:56, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Alexandr Grishin (sports commentator)

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News spike due to death. I don't see any correspondence with WP:BIO. There is no constant coverage of activities. There are no awards (only nominations).--Тихонова Пустынь (talk) 22:01, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The Russian Wikipedia actually provides sources other than his death TV commentator Alexander Grishin: "Politicians influence the public with the help of sports" (22 January 2019, Komsomolskaya Pravda), Alexander Grishin: Belarus is fully ready to host world-class competitions (10 February 2019, Belarusian Telegraph Agency), Комментатор Матч ТВ Александр Гришин: Я конь с 30-летним стажем (20 October 2017, cska.ru), and obituaries written by news agencies can meet WP:GNG. The nominator also didn't give notice to the creator. MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk) 23:29, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per above, there are plenty of Russian sources, this is certainly not a case of him becoming notable only by death, also please be sure to tag the page creator when marking articles for deletion… Thief-River-Faller (talk) 23:59, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The sources listed above are enough for GNG. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 01:23, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Vsevolod Nemolyaev

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A short article with no authoritative sources (only obituaries), and the significance of the subject seems unlikely.--Тихонова Пустынь (talk) 22:02, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Gommar DePauw

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Present information does not support notability. He started a movement for which there is no detail, he taught theology, and he started a chapel for which there is no detail. CountryLad (talk) 06:05, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. DePauw received widespread media coverage in the 1960s and 1970s.[3][4][5][6][7][8] He has subsequently received academic attention.[9][10] Michael Cuneo, in his pioneering study of American traditionalism The Smoke of Satan, called him "the first Catholic traditionalist/separatist of any prominence in the United States."[11]

Jahaza (talk) 16:08, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Jahaza Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 21:17, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per Jahaza's !vote there is enough coverage to pass WP:GNG, article needs improving not deleting. Inter&anthro (talk) 21:54, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Followers and supporters of William Walker's filibustering in Nicaragua

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This article, which was split from William Walker (filibuster), appears to simply be a dumping ground for 350+ one-paragraph biographies of non-notable individuals mostly by students enrolled in a university course. I'm glad it has been able to help students understand how to edit Wikipedia, but I just don't think this indiscriminate, albeit mostly well sourced, list is helpful to anyone.

Writing a few paragraphs at Walker's article or Filibuster War on the broad categories of individuals who participated, with some details on particularly noteworthy groups and individuals, would seem preferable to this 263kb article. Sam Walton (talk) 06:03, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - wowsers. That's a lot of work but for me it is WP:NOTEVERYTHING as it appears to be much like the phone directory example. Logically on the rationale for !keeping this kind of article, we'd have micro-biographies of groups of people that attended any/all historical events. I don't see why this particular group is so important - other than it seemed like a good idea for a class exercise. JMWt (talk) 09:43, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTEVERYTHING and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Many entries are unsourced as well. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:08, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment (with a COI, so please take what I say with an appropriate grain of slat) - if this is deleted and not redirected I'd like to userfy it instead. Because honestly, it feels like at the very least there's got to be something here worth preserving (and maybe finding a use for). Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:40, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article currently exists. I suggest that if you think it might be useful then taking a copy now might be a good idea. JMWt (talk) 15:21, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That seems suboptimal for attribution purposes. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 03:16, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I wonder if anyone could think this article is encyclopaedic. REDISCOVERBHARAT (talk) 14:33, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I am the professor who gave students this assignment. I am trying to understand why this page is being considered for deletion. The war these individuals participated in has enduring historical significance (10% of Costa Rica's population died, Walker and his followers reinstated slavery in Nicaragua, etc). The filibusters discussed here all played an important role in that war and the filibustering phenomenon by definition drew individuals from all social classes and backgrounds. To the best of my knowledge there is no other English language, online, free encyclopedia where the public can access information about the filibusters who took over Nicaragua. This is a subject that many people are interested in and many academic and popular books have been written about filibustering and filibusters in the nineteenth century. I do hope that this page is not deleted. Thank you! Iwritehistory100 (talk) 17:34, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You have partially answered your own question. Wikipedia is not a place where one “writes history” or fills holes in the academic record. If you are saying that this work is original research WP:OR by your class then that in itself might be a reason for !delete. JMWt (talk) 17:48, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I did not say any of those things. I said that many people are interested in reading this page and that the subject is one that has received a great deal of attention in the academic and popular press. Iwritehistory100 (talk) 18:04, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Iwritehistory100 This discussion isn't an attempt to downplay the historical significance of these events, and I sympathise that a significant amount of work has gone into the content of this page. The main problem is that Wikipedia isn't the place for a huge list of individuals that happened to be involved in an event, even if we can find entries and mentions of them in biographical encyclopedias and newspapers. Sam Walton (talk) 18:26, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sam, Thank you for your reply. I wish you had worded your concerns in this fashion from the beginning. I do not think it was helpful to call my students' work an "indiscriminate" "dumping ground" of "non-notable individuals." Unfortunately, the discussion did turn into "an attempt to downplay the historical significance of these events" as evidenced in the comment "I don't see why this particular group is so important." The individuals my students wrote about didn't just "happen to be involved in an event." They were the ones who cause the event to happen. In my opinion, this classroom project meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Iwritehistory100 (talk) 20:46, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please understand that the language you are offended by is Wikipedia lingo. These deletion discussions happen all the time. Esolo5002 (talk) 05:17, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response! I am trying to understand why some lists are allowed (for example a list of Civil War horses) and this one is not. Iwritehistory100 (talk) 20:49, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm... not convinced that should be an article either in all honesty. The general guidance can be found at WP:LISTN. Sam Walton (talk) 21:38, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sam, I did not mean to imply that the list of Civil War horses should not be on Wikipedia. I actually think it belongs on Wikipedia. None of the Wikipedia guidance I have read has led me to think otherwise. Thank you! Iwritehistory100 (talk) 22:28, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Miko Peled

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Article seems to be almost entirely reliant on vast amounts of self promo. Removing this from the article reveals a relatively minuscule amount of output. Despite some controversy, I don't think Peled passes WP:NOTABILITY for a standalone article. Mistamystery (talk) 04:55, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Rory Douglas

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Fails WP:NBIO. Lacking significant coverage in reliable sources. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 23:48, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I don't see anything that isn't PR or an interview in my searches [12] or [13]. I don't see any book reviews either, so not passing AUTHOR. I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 20:03, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

John Allen Martins Blount

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Fails WP:NBIO and WP:GNG. No significant coverage of this businessperson. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 23:41, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Clearly WP:PROMO. Svartner (talk) 12:01, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bader Al-Nashi

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no notability فيصل (talk) 16:10, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Islamic Constitutional Movement as ATD. Mccapra (talk) 20:46, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aaryamann Sethi

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Non-neutral and promotional in tone. The existing references are self-published or user-generated and do not establish notability. Being the child of notable parents is not sufficient for a standalone article. Fails to meet WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. EmilyR34 (talk) 07:47, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:NARTIST, it merely seems WP:PROMO. Svartner (talk) 16:53, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete clearly fails WP:NARTIST, primary and unreliable references. Behappyyar (talk) 17:44, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Promotional article. The subject does fail WP:NACTOR. Georgethedragonslayer (talk) 07:25, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Clearly WP:PROMO. Fails WP:NSINGER and WP:NACTOR. RangersRus (talk) 20:54, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Martín Dávila Gandara

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Leader of a non-notable sect. See Wikipedia policies about bishops - bishops of non-notable congregations are not to have their own articles. CountryLad (talk) 06:24, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Clearly does not pass the WP:NBLP. Veverve (talk) 10:42, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Only one result for "Martín Dávila Gandara" is on ProQuest, the most representative database for Mexican news. XxTechnicianxX (talk) 19:29, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

George Artin

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Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 03:31, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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redirect: to the relevant Olympic article. Oaktree b (talk) 13:58, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – There's a full page of coverage investigating whether or not he was a fraud here, some coverage here (from As-Safir) and here (from The New York Times). There's also a ton of coverage of him involving his later run-in with the law where he led "an international crime ring": [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26], etc... There's also a lot more on Google Scholar, Google Books and ProQuest. The reason why "George Artin" returns practically nothing is because the media referred to him as "George Tajirian", not as the former. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 15:34, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per above. I do have some concern over these rapid-fire AFDs, as it seems unlikely that a proper WP:BEFORE could be carried out for every one. Seacactus 13 (talk) 16:22, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per Aviationwikiflight sources. Svartner (talk) 17:48, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, an impressive rescue by Aviationwikiflight. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:11, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - per above. I also agree that way too many Lugnuts articles gets AfDed at once. WP:GNG applies.BabbaQ (talk) 08:50, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Anindita Mukherjee

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Not notable, not enough coverage in g-search, I don't think this article is worth keeping because she just became the mayor and nothing else. Dolphish (talk) 03:22, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Durgapur is a big city, with a population of 581,000 according to Durgapur Municipal Corporation and of 726,000 (city); 1,209,372 (metropolitan area) according to Durgapur. She is also the first woman to be elected mayor of Durgapur. This reference may be helpful. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:56, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per Eastmain's comment. Notable as first women mayor of Durgapur (a large metropolitan area). Behappyyar (talk) 07:51, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete— There is a consensus that mayors don't automatically meet WP:NPOL. They need significant coverage in independent sources, which is missing in this article so notability is not established. EmilyR34 (talk) 08:02, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Coverage is not enough for WP:NPOL#2. It should either be from before or after she took charge as mayor, but I see only one interview shared by Eastmain, which isn’t enough. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 08:22, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:NPOL. Svartner (talk) 16:57, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Mayors of Cities are not inherently notable. Fails GNG. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 07:14, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Bilzerian

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Mr Bilzerian is only notable because of his relatives. That is inadequate as per Wikipedia's notability requirements. The only things Mr Bilzerian has done in his own right that the page attests to is participate in two professional poker tournaments, and publish a book with a publishing house (Libertad Publications) which appears only to have ever published one book, Mr Bilzerian's. None of this makes him notable. CountryLad (talk) 13:42, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom - FMSky (talk) 19:39, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Dan Bilzerian#Early life and education – Per WP:NOTINHERITED. Svartner (talk) 08:47, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Firdaus Rahmat

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. Independent coverage appears limited to routine entertainment reporting of his participation/elimination in Big Stage 2023 with brief quotes from interviews (e.g., Astro Awani, mStar, Sinar Harian, Kosmo!), not multiple, in-depth profiles about Rahmat himself. Most sources are unreliable/self-published/database sources and do not establish notability. I found no evidence of national charting, significant awards, or substantial critical reception in reliable sources. Coverage I can find, which to me is all passing, it does not imply WP:SIGCOV

Astro Awani coverage of BS2023 elimination: https://www.astroawani.com/berita-hiburan/big-stage-2023-putera-lebih-layak-firdaus-rahmat-terima-hakikat-tersingkir-di-separuh-akhir-426490
mStar coverage: https://www.mstar.com.my/spotlight/hiburan/2023/07/02/dem-lepak-boyz-dan-firdaus-rahmat-tersingkir-6-peserta-berentap-rebut-gelaran-juara-big-stage-2023
Sinar Harian coverage: https://www.sinarharian.com.my/article/266219/berita/hiburan/impian-dem-lepak-boyz-firdaus-rahmat-ke-final-big-stage-2023-lebur
Kosmo! coverage: https://www.kosmo.com.my/2023/07/03/dlb-firdaus-rahmat-tersingkir-6-bbnu-ke-final-big-stage-5/ ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:49, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: The current article contains only three references, which also don't appear to be strong or reliable. Moreover, it lacks substantial coverage on the subject. As it stands, it clearly fails to meet both WP:GNG and WP:NMUSICIAN. Baqi:) (talk) 16:14, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the lack of sources in this WP:BLP requires deletion. A reminder to the gentle reader that red links are red flags. Bearian (talk) 17:00, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Murder of Jermaine Robinson and Stanley Jacoby Mack

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Lacks WP:SUSTAINED notability. After the first brief news cycle, all we have seem to be passing mentions (when the brother of one of the victims was killed as well). Fram (talk) 13:49, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom; no lasting WP:NOTABILITY. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 14:08, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Most of the coverage reads as typical news items (upset mother, combatting gun violence etc) after such an incident in the US. The individuals do not appear notable, I'm not sure them being murdered is notable either, based on the routine coverage presented. Oaktree b (talk) 15:55, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Only routine coverage. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:45, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bhajan Singh Walia

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Not notable, not at any significant position, not won any political election , not enough coverage in g-search, Fails GNG. Dolphish (talk) 11:26, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The person in the article is a religious political leader who also contested legislative elections. Your review, "not at any significant position, not won any political election, not enough coverage..." is not a proper sequence of why it should be nominated. From your edits, it appears to be a part of such stuff including removing categories on a page you are nominating before nominating with mere summary meant like "not won elections" "so not leader or party politicians" is dismissive of factual accuracy itself. A political party leader does not need to win an election or even contest one if they are noted as being part of the party. It appears to be a series of continuous edits on categories and pages but not appropriate summaries or reasons like adding "Indian Air Force" category on an officer's page.

Apart from those problematic edits, coming back to the topic, the subject has been member of the BJP, INC and SAD (Delhi) until 2022 where he became patron of another party (sources clearly verify all these). All are national and state level ECI (government) recognised parties. Hindustan Times and Times of India are RS and they have been added where they indicate the position of the subject as party leader.

Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Management Committee with Delhi Sikh Gurdwaras Act, 1971 is a constitutional legislation of which he was the second highest office-bearer per ranks. So you are not familiar with the subject and religious politics is one of the major backbones of Indian politics. Anyway, to give context here, these elections are conducted by elected government themselves. Government Election Directorate site for DSGMC I would have added more sources here but that would add more length to the article with context and I may work on it later -

He was an elected member, "Her father-in-law, Bhajan Singh Walia, is an elected member of the Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee. He had also contested the Delhi assembly elections on a Congress ticket from Shalimar Bagh in 2003, but lost. Both Walia and his son, Gurvinder (31), were not in the city at the time of the incident." Per The Times of India, already added in the article.

Continuous coverage for almost past 30 years passes Wikipedia:NBASIC and GNG - It is clearly notable under Wikipedia:Notability (pol) -

"Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage."

Prominent Sikh Leader, DSGMC office-bearer for nearly 10 years with second highest office next to the president of DSGMC. He was also a Major local political leader in New Delhi of BJP (national party) source added. Significant coverage is there as when he left the party to join another national party INC and contested legislative elections on its ticket.

Other major religious offices as a Sikh leader and politician -

Member of Takht Sri Patna Sahib Management committee,

Nominated Trustee of Mata Sundari College,

Others - Member, National Monitoring Committee of Minorities Education of Government of India.

One of the two NPOL criterias to be met passed here. It is clearly available through the references that the significant coverage starts from 1997/98 until the office bearer passed away in 2024. HilssaMansen19Irien1291S • spreading wiki love ~ Message here; no calls 13:02, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are many major non-english and local sources that I have not added here as said above,

[27] Many papers have noted the new party formation as a significant move in regional and major religious politics [28] Many such mentions of him being Major/Senior politics Sikh leader

He has been noted by media in several political controversies either as peace mediator, senior leader or office post/election related -

One the political controversy news mention

There is continuous coverage of him being as a prominent Sikh leader vocal and active in the religious and political affairs apart from the Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Management Committee, the supreme administrative body responsible for maintainance of Sikh places of worship in Province of New Delhi under Delhi Sikh Gurdwaras Act, 1971 and being both counterpart and independent of Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee with one member from SGPC being a member of DSGMC.

I will include a few here, [29]

There are many other controversies including Judiciary stepping in his election nomination for DSGMC and rejecting it and other older ones too in archives, prints and related. HilssaMansen19Irien1291S • spreading wiki love ~ Message here; no calls 13:30, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This political position is also contrary to nomination-

Secretary General of Shiromani Akali Dal Delhi [30]
Another non-religious party leadership source as Indian National Congress leader, [31]
Some other sources, significant coverage and separate mentions of his in Patna controversy 3, 4, The Tribune (India) has many other mentions that are continuous for past 25 years.

HilssaMansen19Irien1291S • spreading wiki love ~ Message here; no calls 13:54, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Reviewed by a NPR (New Page Reviewer)

Wikipedia:NPOL 2nd point clearly met which is further supported by continued mentions and coverage throught 30 years but much of what can be found easily.

Following are a few more sources and judicial matters the subject was involved in - I looked for another province Bihar and found many

[32] [33] Judicial hearing; official FB announcement of a full 5 year term (found the actual term dates as well here) completion and sent to Judiciary

[34] [35] [36] other mentions and many prints, newspapers, online prints available as well, some with his entire statements highlighted and others mentioning him being active in Sikh politics [37] [38] [39] [40] [41]

[42] Core committee member of Youth Wing of Shiromani Akali Dal Delhi another political appointment. Mentions as Sikh leader, main leader, eminent personality or other words everywhere [43] [44] [45] [46] [47] [48] [49] [50] [51] highlighting his major local leadership. There are many other sources available as well with some big newspapers quoting and mentioning him in English and more in Punjabi as well. HilssaMansen19Irien1291S • spreading wiki love ~ Message here; no calls 08:32, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sikh e-print [52] news websites [53] [54] HilssaMansen19Irien1291S • spreading wiki love ~ Message here; no calls 08:39, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[55] one of the top Main leaders standing in elections mentioned again, [56] [57] [58] [33]

Apart from Times of India mentioning it, found The Tribune (India)'s old print of 2002 confirming it.

HE WAS AN ELECTED MEMBER, [59] can be checked in the list of winners.

Others, [60] post General Secretary and active as Congress leader mentioned in several RS including TOI, Tribune, HT and others accompanying national leaders as well like Sheila Dikshit, Sonia Gandhi attendees of the functions. [61] [62] [63] HilssaMansen19Irien1291S • spreading wiki love ~ Message here; no calls 09:01, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kalamandalam Neeraj

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Does not meet General Notability Guidelines as all the sources (the reliable ones) are just passing mentions of the subject. Uncle Bash007 (talk) 09:13, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: per nom, Fails GNG. Dolphish (talk) 03:27, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 17:00, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination and above comments, fails GNG. Behappyyar (talk) 17:50, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails to meet WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 21:06, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jacques Rivière (field hockey)

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Subject fails to have the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. The common name doesn't help in searching for coverage. Let'srun (talk) 05:29, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to France at the 1928 Summer Olympics#Hockey – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 17:50, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Albert Charles Six

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Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Many databases appear to list this subject as "Charles Six", but I couldn't find coverage under that name either. Let'srun (talk) 05:17, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect: to the relevant Olympics, as we seem to always do in AfD discussions around athletes. Oaktree b (talk) 16:02, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to France at the 1928 Summer Olympics#Hockey – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 17:51, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Danish Minhas

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I don’t think the subject meets WP:PERP C2 - almost all of the coverage is from 2010 (charged w/ crime) or 2014 (confessed to crime), and much of it is local. One 2017 follow up in True Crime News, which I don’t think speaks to WP:N as it’s an interview and in an outlet that covers basically any update in any crime case. I don’t see any other indications of enduring significance or lasting effect - no hits past 2018 in g-news, newspapers, or PressReader and none in g-books or g-scholar. Zzz plant (talk) 02:31, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bupwatda Pokop Wushipba

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Only 1 article links to this. The provided sources are rather routine coverage. No inherent notability in positions held. Fails WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 23:51, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - "acting chief medical officer" is hardly notable by itself, and there's a lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. Bearian (talk) 03:19, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: subject is notable with WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS.
Delete. A cursory search leads to Bearian's conclusion. WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS, no WP:SUSTAINED. "acting chief medical officer" (not yet chief medical officer) is somewhat minor. GuardianH 21:04, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Reading between the lines, it seems he's a figure of some note in his region and profession, but without in-depth coverage that's impossible to verify. The only coverage he's received by reliable sources has been about his elevation to chief medical director and occasional passing mentions when he comments on local health policy. The politics surrounding his promotion (which had nothing to do with him) would be best covered in the Jos University Teaching Hospital article. --Tserton (talk) 09:15, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Salisu Mu'azu Babura

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Only 1 article links to this. 2 of the provided sources are rather routine coverage. No inherent notability in positions held. Fails WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 23:49, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong Keep: subject clearly passes WP:NACADEMIC, WP:BIO and WP:GNG ultimately. King ChristLike (talk) 03:32, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Which criteria of WP:NACADEMIC does he meet? LibStar (talk) 03:41, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. An h-index of 4 obviously puts him miles off meeting NPROF. The three sources in the article are clearly all repackagings of exactly the same press release. The Daily Post and Nigerian NewsDirect sources are literally word-for-word identical, and the Naija News source has about a 90% overlap with those two sources plus some added unrelated content at the end. I found nothing else to indicate notability. MCE89 (talk) 13:44, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pointing that out, didn't realize the sources are just rehashes of each other. LibStar (talk) 03:00, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: There’s no significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. I see no criteria in WP:NACADEMIC to sustain this article. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 10:50, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Akanimo Odon

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Fails WP:GNG due to a lack of independent sources. All sources in the article are non-independent - places where the subject worked, conferences where he spoke, etc. Astaire (talk) 23:13, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Nice résumé but no sources to establish notability. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 10:42, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aristide Sartor

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Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The only reference is a database and all I could find in a BEFORE were some mentions and hits on unrelated people. A redirect to France at the 1948 Summer Olympics may be a suitable WP:ATD. Let'srun (talk) 15:40, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment there is a small amount of coverage in Richard D. Burnell's Henley Regatta: A History (1957), but I can only see it in snippet view on Google books. Jahaza (talk) 16:32, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Swati Chaturvedi

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The article creator is blocked. The current references do not provide any in-depth information (also, please see WP:SIGCOV) about the subject. Baqi:) (talk) 15:03, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Article meets WP:GNG, as the following independent reliable sources provide significant coverage of the article subject:
Additionally, the article subject meets WP:AUTHOR, as her book I Am A Troll: Inside the Secret World of the BJP's Digital Army (2016), which earned her a Reporters Without Borders Press Freedom Award in 2018, has "been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews" (criterion #3):
As 95 editors have made 209 edits to the article since 2017, the fact that the first of these editors was blocked after having edited the article only once is not a good reason to delete the article. — Newslinger talk 11:29, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per sources listed by Newslinger. Subject meets WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. SDGB1217 (talk) 13:32, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw: I was quite impressed by Newslinger's arguments, and I learned a lot from their comments. I have always held the admins in high regard, and therefore, I respectfully withdraw this nomination. Thank you. Baqi:) (talk) 14:23, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per newslinger's comment. Behappyyar (talk) 04:21, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Per Newslinger. RangersRus (talk) 21:12, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad Kabir Nuhu-Koko

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Only 1 article links to this. No inherent notability in positions held such as "Deputy Director in the Procurement and Support Services Department". Could not find SIGCOV in third party sources to meet WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 07:27, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I couldn’t find sources save for mention about what the oversaw. I’m willing to take a look at new sources if anyone can provide them. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 10:33, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Joaquín Sáenz y Arriaga

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There is nothing in the article that indicates this person is notable. There is an enormous amount about his biography, but nothing indicates he fulfills notability requirements. The highest it can be put is that he founded an organisation called Union Catolica Trento, an organisation which returns very few Google results and there is only one cited source in the article for and it is a seemingly self-published book without an ISBN. Also, he was "connected" with Los TECOS, but the nature of the connection is completely unarticulated so there is no way to know whether that might in some way make him notable. There is also reference to his excommunication but the only detail about that is a quote from someone saying that his excommunication was outrageous (this is in marked contradistinction to the detail about his family life, which is copious, for some reason). This strongly tends to suggest the article is not written from a neutral point of view. More generally, the only sources are extremely obscure ones, and many of the main ones it is impossible to verify if they actually exist (see in particular "Rius Facius"). CountryLad (talk) 03:50, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - article covers a Catholic priest who was one of the main founders of sedevacantism, a significant movement in the Catholic Church. His main notability is in relation to the Catholic Church in Mexico. He was one of the leading figures involved in the conflict between traditionalists and progressivists in the Church in Mexico during the 20th century and his excommunication was a significant event in Mexican Catholicism. The case is widely discussed in Mexican and Spanish-language academia (some references included in article reflect that) and is why this figure has articles in four languages on Wikipedia. The article does requires significant expansion, however. JustAChurchMouse (talk) 08:25, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that if he is notable, why are there so few English language sources that mention him outside of this Wikipedia article itself? Also, I have nominated 2 articles regarding 'sedevacantists', not a "mass" exercise as you have claimed on the other article's post. If you wish to deprecate my motives, please at least don't be misleading about it. CountryLad (talk) 14:01, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

if he is notable, why are there so few English language sources that mention him outside of this Wikipedia article itself That's a particularly bad argument. the only sources are extremely obscure ones, and many of the main ones it is impossible to verify if they actually exist (see in particular "Rius Facius"). Unclear why you would think that. You can use the ISBN in the citation to visit WorldCat and see that 18 WorldCat libraries hold Antonio Rius Facius's book.[64] Jahaza (talk) 15:21, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: His excommunication was a significant event of the split in the Mexican clergy over Vatican II [65]. His anti-Semitic commentary [66], denunciation of Gregorio Lemercier, and stated influence on René Capistrán Garza has also been covered [67]. More could be gleaned from the numerous results on Google Scholar [68][69]. XxTechnicianxX (talk) 12:50, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Joseph Bottum in First Things called "Sáenz y Arriaga’s Sede Vacante, a foundational book for the new traditionalism."[70] Jahaza (talk) 18:36, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sáenz's excommunication shows up in histories of the church in Mexico.[71] Jahaza (talk) 18:54, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in view of the multiple reliable sources coverage identified in this discussion including scholarly sources that together shows a pass of WP:GNG in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 23:11, 7 August 2025 (UTC) -[reply]
Keep - enough sources in the article to pass WP:GNG, the fact that most of the citations are not in English is irrelevant, although English sources are preferable for English Wikipedia they are not absolutely required, and a subject can have an article even if the coverage is not in English. That said there's a lot of fluff and excessive quotations in this article and it could do with some cleaning up. Inter&anthro (talk) 14:17, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Michel-Louis Guérard des Lauriers

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There is no information in this article which suggests the subject of the article meets notability requirements. There is a reference to the Vatican website, but this simply confirms he was excommunicated. That does not make him notable. Otherwise the (scant) sources are to blogs and other private websites, and one to an academic work. Mere mention in an academic work does not make one notable. The highest the claims of the article reach are that: (1) he once wrote a letter to Archbishop Le Febvre (no mention as to whether the Archbishop bothered to reply) (2) he supported a belief known as sedeprivationism (supporting a belief does not make one notable) (3) (in other parts of the article) he invented the belief known as sedeprivationism (but this claim is entirely unsupported by any reference) (4) an excommunicated Catholic bishop purported to make him a Catholic bishop, and then he purported to make further people Catholic bishops (there is no source for this claim, it is entirely unreferenced). CountryLad (talk) 06:11, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep article covers one of the main figures involved in sedevacantism, a significant movement in the Catholic Church, in particular he created the sedeprivationist theory. Was a professor at the Pontifical Lateran University. Again this figure has Wikipedia articles in nine different languages? The English language article certainly requires expansion, but I am not sure why this user is mass tagging for deletion articles related to the topic area of sedevacantism, rather than tagging for expansion. JustAChurchMouse (talk) 08:31, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per CountryLad. Veverve (talk) 11:23, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment the article in the English Wikipedia, as it stands, has quite bad sourcing apart from the one I have added recently from Oxford University Press, however, taking a look at the article fr:Michel-Louis Guérard des Lauriers on the French-language Wikipedia, their version is far, far better than ours and has better, more reliable referencing. For example the case of this person has an entire dedicated section in Les Marges du christianisme. This is likely because it deals with a French figure and a lot of the better references are in the French language. What may be best here is to simply tag this for more reliable sources and have the French Wikipedia version wholesale translated into English for here. JustAChurchMouse (talk) 10:43, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edward J Crawford

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Routine acquisition news, trivial mentions, partnership announcements and more unbylined articles and interviews from where he studied - Tulane University. TampaBay.com and FloridaPolitics articles mention him only once. I am not able to find any significant independent coverage about him. Fails WP:GNG. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 04:57, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: This article has been deleted two times in the past and deleted both times. 1st AfD: [72] and 2nd AfD: [73]. This is the third manifestation with a slight variation on his name (no period on the middle initial). Seems like it might be UPE, and was recently tagged as such. Netherzone (talk) 05:31, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh, I missed both of them but yeah, I think we might get to salt it after this AfD. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:26, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I forgot what the mark-up code is to list the previous discussions at the top so other editors can easily read them. If an editor with that know-how is watching this, please add them to the top of this discussion. The links are in my comment above. Netherzone (talk) 15:18, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete - This article, twice deleted in the past has indications that it may have been created as UPE (tagged by another editor). After going through the sources, they are weak, consisting of sources that don't mention him at all, mention him solely as a "name check", or are user-submitted content, press-releases, non-independent primary sources such as interviews and alumni newsletters in which the subject talks about himself, or about other people entirely (like Jeb Bush). There is only one decent source, a book source published by the Navy, but that too is not fully independent because the subject both worked for and served for the Navy. Fails WP:GNG, and WP:NBUSINESSPERSON]]. I had crafted a source analysis table, but because I'm on a slow connection while traveling it timed out before I could publish it, and lost it. If I have time before this AfD is closed and can find access to high speed, I'll redraft the table. Either way, he does not meet notability criteria. Netherzone (talk) 03:23, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Joss Sackler

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Defamatory description of a private individual. There are no references for this individual beyond tabloids. Historyexpert2 (talk) 03:55, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Plenty of coverage around fashion launches and the controversy surrounding her husband [74], Forbes staff story [75], [76]. Could perhaps use a rewrite, but I see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 14:21, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, agree with Oaktree b that the article needs work (possible POV issues) but the subject is notable and there is coverage in multiple sources. SDGB1217 (talk) 20:30, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: A "private individual" that presents a fashion show under their name, isn't private. Oaktree b (talk) 14:22, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep A quick look at the article shows that the nominator is very incorrect. This is not a "private individual" and publications like Town & Country (magazine) and Vanity Fair (magazine) are reliable sources, not "tabloids." Asparagusstar (talk) 14:26, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Clearly notable based on the sources above. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 15:01, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hard Keep: Clearly notable, passes WP:GNG. The Forbes story mentioned by Oaktree b where she offered $100K to Courtney Love is pretty notable to me. An article should be written about her husband too. m a MANÍ^{1990(talk | contribs)} 00:35, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for reasons above. Issues with "defamation" are not issues with notability. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 04:44, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Kirwan

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Created a single purpose editor. Only 1 article links to this. A search in google news for ["Dave Kirwan" weather -wikipedia] yielded nothing. Fails WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 01:18, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Person working in various news outlets, nothing terribly notable about the career from what I see. Seems rather routine. No sourcing to show notability either. Oaktree b (talk) 14:26, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gary Watrous

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Fails WP:NBIO. Lacking significant coverage in reliable sources. The two Santa Cruz Sentinel sources ([77][78]) read like press releases. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 23:48, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - lacks significant coverage. A couple of local news reports is not enough. I also note that this overwrought, bombastic page would need a total overhaul to be an encyclopedia article. Bearian (talk) 02:26, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per Bearian. Svartner (talk) 17:14, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails WP:NBIO. No WP:SIGCOV. QEnigma 论 06:20, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete I think I disagree with the idea that the two Sentinel articles read like press releases. That said, it's still not enough to crest SIGCOV and my BEFORE doesn't find anything further. That said, I think just one more quality reference will be enough to get it over the hill. Chetsford (talk) 04:00, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Caldwell

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Not sourced; couldn't find sources about him online. It only showed Henry Clay Caldwell and Henry "Corky" Caldwell. ~Rafael! (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 23:08, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Some coverage here [79] and here [80] Oaktree b (talk) 23:16, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per above, entry in the Canadian Dictionary of National Biography is well fleshed out and him being a Canadian MP is notable Microplastic Consumer (talk) 23:31, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. As per above references mentioned by Oaktree b. It includes significant coverage about Henry. Fade258 (talk) 01:09, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The nominator's rationale for deletion appears to overlook the fact that the existing external link led directly to a comprehensive biography on the official Assemblée nationale du Québec website, which satisfies WP:RS and offers significant coverage in French. I’ve since improved the article and added further reliable sources in English. This subject meets notability as a historical figure who served in the Legislative Assembly of Lower Canada, already a notable position under WP:NPOL. Deletion is unwarranted. m a MANÍ^{1990(talk | contribs)} 01:37, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Qualifies under WP:POLITICIAN and WP:ANYBIO #3. -- 09:49, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

Jorge U. Orozco

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Notability not established with substantive sources, citations are brief mentions that lack biographical substance, and regional consuls even today are rarely notable. Prod removed with baffling statement "extra care required with historic subjects"....since when? Where was the care in creating the article? Reywas92^Talk 19:59, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Limited coverage here [81] or [82], not enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 23:22, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the consensus has developed that diplomats are not automatically notable, which I fought against, but I understand. Lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. More care needs to be taken living persons is our rule, not the opposite. Bearian (talk) 02:36, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: There are 291 results for "Jorge U. Orozco" from 1914 to 1916 on Newspapers.com [83], but most that qualify as WP:SIGCOV detail charges of neutrality violation against him for his role in organizing a pro-Carranza expedition, violating WP:SINGLEEVENT. All results on Google Scholar are passing mentions [84]. XxTechnicianxX (talk) 02:29, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ralph Spencer Steenblik

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Previously deleted, I did not find significant, in-depth coverage of Steenblik in independent, reliable sources. What's there amounts to passing and brief mentions, so fails WP:NPROF and WP:GNG ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:43, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nomination. From searches, nothing stands out for coverage of this subject except for mentions, and you can't build a case for WP:N on mentions. Also, for an architect as a subject, this article sure was poorly architected (ahem), with a bunch of unnecessary, far-flung categories. Next time this pops up, speedy it. Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 22:06, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. A name like that should be easy to search for online, unfortunately nothing of substance comes to light. Though as an architect, author and academic there's every chance he may become more 'notable' as time passes. Sionk (talk) 22:52, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per all above. ROY is WAR Talk! 00:13, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A. J. Whitaker Sinclair

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To be honest, I edited this article a year ago and I realized now that is article is insufficient for Notability per WP:BLP, WP:ATHLETE. The ref1 which is Instagram is not reliable source and the rest came from website which is unreliable source. ROY is WAR Talk! 18:29, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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If the article is not kept, I would strongly suggest a redirect and potential merge to Pallavolo Hermaea as an ATD. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 07:47, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
DaniloDaysOfOurLives is there any relation to Pallavado Hermaea? ROY is WAR Talk! 11:13, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, she was on the 2016 team. It is mentioned in both articles DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 07:03, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jameel Sayhood

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Failed on WP:BLP and WP:GNG. There is no development on this article since it was AfD on 2021. ROY is WAR Talk! 16:04, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The one source listed in the article is not independent of the subject, since most of the information comes from him. Other than that, a search turned up two books that mention him, but both of these do not have significant coverage of Sayhood. ‍Relativity ⚡️ 16:37, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom Pantagraph (talk) 16:49, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Shouldn't have been sent to AfD, it was created recently Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (they/them) 17:47, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Arundhati Singha

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Doesn't look like it clears WP:GNG. Most of the claims aren't backed by the listed sources, and the OCU honorary-doctorate citation just lands on the university's homepage. A single honor like that still isn't enough for a pass under WP:ANYBIO#1. Junbeesh (talk) 15:39, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Promotional with poor to unreliable sources. This article does not have any beneficial contribution and does not show that the subject warrants significant notability. RangersRus (talk) 15:46, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The OCU statement has been retracted and we have approached the university to update us once the info is available on their website to use as a citation for the wikipedia page. Requesting you to kindly remove the status of Article for deletion. Citations for the rest of the text in the article has been given. 188.236.182.32 (talk) 04:20, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

James Underdown

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The bio is entirely constructed on primary or otherwise non-independent sourcing and perhaps as a result reads like a vanity page. The best argument for his notability in the article is that he ran around calling himself a poet laureate in the late 80s (by my reckoning, the only independent coverage in the entire article is for that bit), but at best that's a WP:BLP1E issue. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 22:56, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: This is the second "second nomination", as the first attempt at that was made on behalf of a sock (who previously initiated a PROD that was procedurally declined due to the existence of the first nomination) and was itself deleted. (No opinion.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:23, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Center for Inquiry where he is mentioned multiple times, there is a photo of him, and where I have added some additional content. His stand-alone biography as currently written doesn't have enough significant coverage for a nonprofit figure, podcaster, comedian, filmmaker, writer, actor, poet, etc., either individually or in combination. To be clear, my vote is for a simple WP:BLANKANDREDIRECT not delete, which for those on the outside reading this, the edit history and talk page are retained. Underdown is overseeing a $500,000 scientific prize that could result in the needed significant coverage in the future, so the article could be restored at some point and without some of the trivial material. 5Q5|^✉ 11:59, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
RedirectWP:BLANKANDREDIRECT I think a redirect is a great idea. I wrote the article back in ... many years ago when I was young ... er younger than now. And wasn't so skilled at knowing what was trivial and what was a reliable source. I have mostly not touched it since 2021 when I wrote a short description for the article. He does run a powerful paranormal challenge with $500K behind it but don't think that warrants a stand alone article for himself. I've been waiting for more significant coverage to add and haven't had it cross my Google Alert yet. Looking over the references again I see he has had an interesting life but these citations aren't quite enough to pass notability. Would like to preserve the edit history in case the significant coverage changes. Sgerbic (talk) 15:57, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect- to to Center for Inquiry seems a sensible move to the more notable organization he is related with if the subject on his own lacks enough independent RS to support its keep, did notice a handful are primary sources from the CFI , also noticed like citation 20 which is literally a wikipedia page ,should be removed.Lorraine Crane (talk) 04:36, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Lorraine Crane. The subject may meet GNG in the near future. A redirect would be fine for now. GenuineArt (talk) 08:54, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Raj Kakra

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Fails WP:NACTOR. Looks the person is still not-notable and references do not justify WP:GNG. Contains sponsored reference(s) only. Agent 007 (talk) 18:40, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: not notable. Dolphish (talk) 04:58, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Kaum De Heere#Cast: He has one of the lead roles. https://www.sikh24.com/2014/01/30/indian-censor-board-refuses-to-allow-raj-kakras-punjabi-movie-kaum-de-heere/ (and other similar coverage). - Eva Ux 07:23, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete While there are some search results about the subject, the notability bar is yet to be satisfied. Wisher08 (talk) 07:38, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Don't Delete The person is strongly notable in the Punjabi Music world but lacks online credible presence. The article may be left as a stub or any other suggestions might be more helpful rather than deleting.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagmit Singh Brar (talk • contribs) 14:03, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

...lacks online credible presence. is a testimony that the article fails WP:GNG Agent 007 (talk) 17:05, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

okay.. as the majority feels it should be deleted.. i agree Jagmit Singh Brar (talk) 08:06, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and Redirect to Kaum De Heere#Cast not really notable and citing IMDb is not reliable per perennial source. ROY is WAR Talk! 11:17, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Kaum De Heere#Cast. Behappyyar (talk) 15:53, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Emma Harvey (singer)

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This article was originally submitted to AfC, but got moved to mainspace by the author without being accepted. The article is mostly unsourced, and what references we do have do not establish notability. This is essentially a puff piece as far as I see it. Not to mention the fact that the article is one big BLP violation. MediaKyle (talk) 15:44, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: No valid secondary sourcing to prove notability, does not appear to pass WP:GNG. Instagram and Bandsintown are not WP:RS. I agree with every word of the nominator, it's WP:TOOSOON. m a MANÍ^{1990(talk | contribs)} 23:34, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This is referenced almost entirely to unreliable sourcing that is not support for notability, such as social networking posts and YouTube and Q&A interviews on blogs — and the one relatively solid third-party source in the entire article is Indie 88, which is a short blurb that isn't remotely substantive enough to vault her over WP:GNG all by itself if it's the only non-crap footnote in the entire article. Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable without significantly better sourcing for it than this. Bearcat (talk) 13:13, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Failed on WP:NSINGER, WP:BLP and sourcing Instagram is not reliable per WP:RS. Much like it was a WP:PROMOTION article. ROY is WAR Talk! 16:11, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No sigcov. The only media I could found are: [85], [86], [87] and [88]. First one is about her as an instagram personality, and the other three aren't quite enough to satisfy WP:NMUSIC. Also the article should be about the band, not her, as that's were the minor press coverage has been. Nil🥝 04:13, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I see that most sources are from social media which is why they are excluded when calculating when determining notability. She has almost no (significant) coverage outside of social media. JuniperChill (talk) 00:10, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chidananda S Naik

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While this is not a G4, it does not appear that factors have changed sufficiently since the first AfD. Bringing it here for further discussion. Star Mississippi 13:54, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Subject received the Best Script award in the Non-Feature Film competition at the 71st National Film Awards recently, which clearly meets WP:ANYBIO #1 and WP:FILMMAKER#4(c). In the previous AfD, the main rationale against retention was that the La Cinéf award was technically awarded to the film and not the director. That concern no longer applies, as the National Film Award for Best Script was awarded directly to Chidananda.

We now also have significant coverage from sources published across different points in time, not just immediately following Cannes -[89], [90], [91] and [92]. IMO, subject now meets both GNG and ANYBIO. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 14:36, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - subject receive an award in Nation Film Awards and clearly pass WP:ANYBIO. Behappyyar (talk) 15:59, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Srini Kumar

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No longer meets WP:GNG with no viable long-lasting coverage. Article was previously deleted and then recreated but has never grown beyond a stub, and sources are non-reliable and long outdated. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 03:46, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Reject nomination This is an invalid AfD reason. Notability is not a temporal property. If something was once notable, then it continues to be notable. The alternative would be for Wikipedia to only contain topics of things that have been discussed within the past 10 years and constantly deleting anything older than that. That would then eliminate the whole purpose and value of Wikipedia. Further, it was established in the previous AfD for this article, that dead links do not somehow convert an article from encyclopedic to unencylcopedic, which makes this a redundant AfD, trying to re-vote something that has already reached consensus. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ 06:22, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment KeithTyler is the article creator. ~~And the consensus in the first AfD was to delete.~~ 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 08:44, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: The article was not recreated, as it turns out. While the first nomination nominally ended as "delete", this was contested at deletion review and overturned to "no consensus". The current article is more-or-less the same article as last time, and there have been few changes in the interim (not even to add any of the sources brought up in the first nomination). I have no opinion, though. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:06, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sulara Nanayakkara

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Unclear notability. No significant coverage of this musician in reliable sources. I also question this article's claims of significance, including the claim that this person has been featured in two Grammy-nominated recordings. The source that supports that claim ([93]) does not even mention this person. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 13:19, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi,

I have moved this article to the main space because Sulara Nanayakkara is a prominent violinist and music educator in Sri Lanka. I have added more newspaper articles as citations to support the claims made in the article, specially the grammy nomination. Please let me know if more citations are required. Thanks Withanakasun (talk) 13:34, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unable to find any significant coverage that supports this musician's notability. "Notably, he is the only Sri Lankan violinist to have been associated with Grammy-nominated recordings"—I question the validity of this claim, as there is no evidence to support it.Raj Shri21 (talk) 13:43, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I have removed the claim "he is the only Sri Lankan violinist to have been associated with grammy-nominated recordings" as there isn't adequate evidence for it, and I have cited newspaper articles as evidence for the grammy nomination Withanakasun (talk) 13:58, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Further, I would be grateful if you could let me know what other edits can be made to improve the article

Thanks Withanakasun (talk) 15:26, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article has now been revised for improved accuracy and sourcing. Multiple independent and reliable sources such as The Sunday Times (Sri Lanka) and Daily Mirror (Sri Lanka) confirm that Sulara Nanayakkara was a violinist in the Temple University Orchestra during the recording of Vince Mendoza's 'Constant Renaissance' which was nominated for two Grammy Awards (Best Instrumental Composition and Best Arrangement, Instrumental or A Capella) in 2012. While the Grammy nomination applies to the composition and ensemble and not to Nanayakkara personally, his participation is explicitly mentioned by these publications. The article now avoids unverified claims, claims that may sound promotional and adheres to a neutral point of view. References are cited to support statements about the subject's performances, qualifications and teaching. Given the presence of significant coverage in independent sources, albeit local, and the subject’s contributions to internationally recognized recordings and performances, the subject in my opinion meets the notability criteria under WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. I welcome further improvements and collaboration from other editors. Withanakasun (talk) 18:17, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify. The article was clearly not ready for publication when it first appeared in main space, and isn't ready now. The creator is a new editor who apparently wasn't aware of the process for getting drafts written by newbies approved for publication. Let's draftify this, which would give the creator ample time to improve the draft without having to worry about deletion. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:12, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Anachronist. Already draftified once. But the author moved the page back to mainspace. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 23:42, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Im sorry earlier I was unaware you had moved it to draft space. When I was about to publish an edit it was missing in the main space. I thought it was accidentally moved by a glitch so I moved it to main space again. Then I saw your comment regarding moving it to draft space and immediately tried to fix the issues as much as possible. I would appreciate it if you could point out the issues in the article and let me edit it in draft space. Again, I'm really sorry, I'm new to this and didn't know how this process worked. Withanakasun (talk) 23:58, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Fancy Refrigerator - the creator is willing to draftify it again. I recommend closing this discussion and moving forward with that. ~Anachronist (talk) 06:41, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Anachronist. I object to draftification. I could not find sources in my WP:BEFORE that would make that a better alternative over deletion. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 12:32, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The subject is featured in numerous articles in newspapers such as The Sunday Times (Sri Lanka), The Daily Mirror (Sri Lanka), and Sunday Observer (Sri Lanka) which i have cited in the Wikipedia article. I include some of them below.

http://www.sundaytimes.lk/210228/magazine/sulara-classical-violin-teacher-who-dreams-to-create-a-world-class-next-generation-433546.html

http://www.sundaytimes.lk/201122/magazine/master-violinist-dreaming-to-share-the-love-for-music-422981.html

https://www.life.lk/article/latest_stories/A-Holiday-Serenade/1/20766

https://www.sundaytimes.lk/240811/sunday-times-2/violin-piano-duo-recital-for-prithipura-home-567218.html

https://archives.sundayobserver.lk/2015/06/21/spe-the-07.asp

http://www.sundaytimes.lk/130331/magazine/living-and-loving-the-violin-38758.html

https://www.dailymirror.lk/news-features/Violin-Piano-Duo-Recital-for-a-worthy-cause-Sulara-Johann-join-to-perform-rare-classical-recitals/131-289380

All the above newspapers are major English newspapers in Sri Lanka, and these are articles by journalists under the employment of these newspapers, not interviews or promotional material. Nor are these passing mentions of the subject because these articles are about the subject's career and performances. Therefore I find these sources adequate for notability under WP:MUSICBIO. I would be grateful if you could let me know the reasons you find these sources inadequate Withanakasun (talk) 14:29, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry but those are low quality articles, which do little to show notability. These ([94][95][96]) were written by the same person, who, in the third listed article, writes With his rare talent, Sulara, from his younger age started winning awards for his performance, just one of many questionably written sentences. There is no integrity in these sources. The life.lk article ([97]) even shows signs of being generated by large language models. And the remaining sources ([98][99]) have no author that I could see. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 15:16, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Fancy Refrigerator "There is no integrity in these sources", "The life.lk article ([5]) even shows signs of being generated by large language models". Can you please explain how you arrived at these 2 conclusions? Withanakasun (talk) 15:40, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is no integrity in those sources because they are promotional by nature (see the forementioned sentence for reference) and/or contain factual error and information that cannot be verified. Most obvious of factual errors, all three of those articles by the same person write that Sulara Nanayakkara is a Grammy-nominated artiste.

As for life.lk article, it is evident based on how it is written (e.g. The concert promises to immerse the audience in the warmth and joy of the season, through the transcendent power of music [...] The evening will conclude with the vibrant and dynamic 10th String Symphony of Mendelssohn, rounding out a programme that blends tradition and innovation.) that it contains material generated by LLMs. ZeroGPT and GPTZero each confirms that the article was written in part, at the least, by chatbot. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 16:28, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have corrected the Grammy nomination claim to reflect that the newspapers mention he was part of the ensemble of a Grammy nominated recording, which may be what the author of the newspaper articles also intended to convey. Apart from that, I believe the sources are generally reliable as they are major newspapers in Sri Lanka and have been used as sources in other Wikipedia articles for notable Sri Lankan persons. (as mentioned in my other reply).

As for the life.lk article, Grammarly AI detector reports 0% AI written text and quillbot reports only 18% of the text is likely AI Withanakasun (talk) 16:56, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My point is that those factual errors compromise the reliability of those sources in whole. [100] misleadingly calls the subject Sri Lanka’s first youngest violinist to become Grammy Nominated Recording Artiste and [101], too, misleadingly writes [...] he has received international fame reaching world standards as a Grammy nominated recording artiste. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 17:24, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Fancy Refrigerator also, all these articles are under the domains of the aforementioned newspapers, which means they were published by these newspapers either on paper or online. And these are well established newspapers in Sri Lanka. Some other Wikipedia pages of notable Sri Lankan persons cite only such newspaper articles. See Lakshman Joseph de Saram Withanakasun (talk) 15:44, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bob Chaput

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Fails WP:NBIO. An online search of this person produces press releases and obituaries of an unrelated person. And no significant coverage in either of the paywalled WSJ sources which can be accessed using Internet Archive ([102][103]). Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 12:52, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Because we have mutual connections in common, I'm not going to !vote. I will point out that an adjunct professor almost never passes WP:PROF, but he could still pass based on WP:SIGCOV, which I'll leave up to you folks. Bearian (talk) 18:05, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I checked the two books mentioned in the lead and neither has received any widespread recognition or citations. Ofc this could change later on but I don't see evidence of notability as of now. Caleb Stanford (talk) 05:03, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete. I found lots of quotes from the subject, mostly in trade magazines, and this 2003 profile. Could be persuaded by one or two more decent sources, but I don't see enough for WP:GNG. MCE89 (talk) 11:48, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Louie Benedict Ignacio

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Was deprodded with the rationale that his "research included Filipino Time", but his anemic citation count doesn't really indicate that he contributed much in that area. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NSCHOLAR. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 10:42, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - found nothing meaningful in g-books, newspapers.com, or PressReader. G-scholar profile does not support pass WP:NPROF. In g-news, found a mention, and he's quoted here and here in articles about Filipino time, but none of those provide significant coverage of him specifically. Also, one is on a website focused on discussing quirky holidays - ok for verifying but not for demonstrating notability. Zzz plant (talk) 17:41, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Bhambi

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Hoax article, not notable, unsourced from long time. Dolphish (talk) 11:24, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment:. Clearly not a hoax article. A simple Google search shows multiple mentions of the caste. For example, the caste is mentioned in the constitution of India (THE CONSTITUTION (SCHEDULED CASTES) ORDER, 19501 (C.O.19)) — ERcheck (talk) 04:47, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mochi (Sikh)

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Unsourced from long time. Dolphish (talk) 11:20, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Chamar#Demographics – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 22:50, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Christoph Karl Franzen

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Individual doesn't satisfy Wikipedia's WP:GNG criteria. Lacks Significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. CresiaBilli (talk) 09:28, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:GNG - I don't see any thing that he has done that is notable. Bearian (talk) 10:13, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above, WP:GNG, WP:NBLP, etc. Ploni^💬 12:35, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I have 352 results for "Chris Franzen" on Swissdox; very, very many passing mentions, making it hard to determine if there's any sigcov, but of the few dozen I've skimmed they all seem to be about this guy. I don't know if I'll have time to finish looking through these and !vote. If I don't, I suggest a redirect to Bürgenstock Resort as an ATD. Toadspike [Talk] 16:52, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep When I searched on Google for the term "Christoph Karl 'Franzen,'" I found that the results in the 'News' section were insufficient. However, when I searched for "Chris K. Franzen" and "Chris Franzen," I discovered enough resources to demonstrate the subject's notability (GNG). There are significant references available in multiple reliable sources. Currently the article looks like promotional, and it needs improvement to adhare Wikipedia's standrads. To achieve this, it would be beneficial to focus on providing verifiable sources and a neutral tone. Additionally, incorporating more factual information and eliminating subjective language will help align the content with Wikipedia's guidelines. Sooterout (talk) 06:20, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We don't really need those catchall statements, we need to hear about speficic sources. Geschichte (talk) 07:48, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are references from reliable sources: [104] - Blick, a Swiss German-language daily newspaper. [105] - Bilanz, a biweekly business magazine published in Zürich, Switzerland. [106]- Schweizer Radio und Fernsehen, a radio company subsidiary of the Swiss Broadcasting Corporation. Jevry Paul (talk) 16:53, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment The source for Blick and Bilanz are identical, given that Blick simply republished the Bilanz interview. The interview itself is mostly trivia about his life and a primary source, so I would not count it for notability. The SRF documentary isn't just about him, in total about 13 to 15 minutes of the program are about him, but given that there are four episodes with him in it, that would add up to about an hour long portrait of his work. Again, not really substantial coverage, it just shows him at work a bit and bit about his family. LightlySeared (talk) 17:17, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete After having had a bit of a think, I have to say I come down on the side of just barely not passing the notability guidelines, for reasons above. LightlySeared (talk) 11:13, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 12:40, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Erick Macek

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Fails WP:NMUSIC. No significant coverage of this musician in reliable sources. This musician's winnings from obscure music awards that are Los Angeles Music Awards and LIT Music Awards do not show notability either. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 13:29, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I didn’t find anything substantial in my WP:BEFORE search. The subject clearly fails WP:NMUSIC and also does not meet WP:BASIC. Baqi:) (talk) 19:34, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. it lacks significant, extensive coverage of the person, making it difficult to assess their notability 200.46.55.111 (talk) 23:33, 4 August 2025 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE Geschichte (talk) 06:20, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Some limited coverage while on The Voice [107]. What's now in the article is Apple Music/streaming sites/radio stations and the like, that don't show notability. The few articles are about a "local hero" being on a TV show, I don't think they add much to sigcov. Oaktree b (talk) 15:51, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Optikz

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Fails WP:NMUSIC. No significant coverage of this musician. The article makes the claim that this person's songwriting "gained international recognition" but there is nothing to support this claim. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 13:06, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Coverage is all in a local newspaper [108], plus the two sources from Guelph in the article. I don't see the person having met any of hte musical notability standards we look for... No charted singles, the awards are non-notable, no major releases on record labels. Being an opening act for someone else isn't notable. Oaktree b (talk) 15:22, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Items written by RH staff -rollinghype.com/aussie-canadian-talent-optikz-prepares-to-drop-champion-and-change-the-game-with-new-ep/, or this which is on the spam list -hiphopexclusives.com/optikz-the-australian-canadian-lyricist-redefining-resilience-with-champion-and-upcoming-ep/ , so you can't post the link in Wikipedia. Was preparing to "drop" his album in April, with literally no coverage since. Still nothing to show musical notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:26, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Zach Shallcross

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At first, I was hesitant to nominate this article for deletion primarily due to WP:NACTOR. Then I realize that WP:NBASIC and WP:GNG (or WP:N itself) matter more, especially per WP:BIOSPECIAL. I admire this person's third-place in The Bachelorette (US) season 19, but then I wonder whether that finish and his major role as The Bachelor in season 27 (US) would suffice anymore. The aftermath of season 27 can be already explained in The Bachelor (American TV series). Furthermore, he is well known for primarily his major role in The Bachelor. Thus, per WP:BIO1E, if not WP:BLP1E, and WP:BIOSPECIAL, should be redirected to The Bachelor (American TV series) season 27. George Ho (talk) 04:51, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Filtered Incorrectly? There is barely anything talking about football here, so I don't know why this was added to the American football AfD page. NotJamestack (talk) 11:15, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Does high school football, which this person played, count? George Ho (talk) 15:08, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This AfD is on the Wikiproject College football page for some reason. This only makes it more confusing as this article only makes a passing mention of football, given that this person is primarily an actor. NotJamestack (talk) 18:20, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
He played in college. It counts. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:45, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A. G. Louton

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Appears to be a non-notable religious person, coverage is limited to a description of events attended or handled by the individual. Nothing found outside of the obituary. Oaktree b (talk) 13:29, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Not only do I doubt this person would satisfy GNG, but I also have concerns that the use of obituaries as sources may run afoul of WP:OBITUARIES, namely: they are often not intended to be neutral, but to eulogize (or, in more rare cases, actively condemn) the subject [...] [O]bituaries may emphasize aspects of a subject's life that are not particularly significant otherwise, such as philanthropy or charitable donations Gommeh 🎮 17:55, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge This person is not independently notable, but the family has been the subject of some books and articles. Merge into the louton family page of which he is the patriarch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fredthefighter (talk • contribs) — Fredthefighter (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Keep starting 50 churches in South Africa as confirmed by reliable sources is notable in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:13, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What is the citation for that? Jahaza (talk) 21:23, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Newspaper references 5 and 6 in the article. Assuming good faith as I don't have access to newspapers.com, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:41, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Merge. Agree with nom and with Gommeh. Poor sourcing, WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS, and largely short of widespread coverage. GuardianH 04:12, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As a local Wikipedian, I know that especially in the Limpopo province where Louton lived and worked this man is widely known and remembered. I understand that perhaps the sources don't indicate this, but we have to keep in mind that sources availible on the internet do not necessarily help when it comes to individuals active in the 3rd world who died before the internet was created. I have visited his grave and there are books mentioning him in my local library. It's important this stays up, because people need to be able to find reliable information. South Africa has no real equivelant of Newspapers.com, but if it did, there would be no debate. - Yourmailman

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@Yourmailman Your argument of "I have visited his grave and there are books mentioning him in my local library" is not valid here. GuardianH 23:45, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The Louton family article has been deleted, so this can't be merged or redirected there. Oaktree b (talk) 04:19, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edgar M. Louton

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Subject appears non-notable. Zero sources found to show notability, Gbooks has nothing. Gsearch only brings up this Wiki page or mirrors, then peters off. No lasting notability found. Oaktree b (talk) 13:32, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I am not sure why you say zero sources to show notability as there are sources in the article. I also used WP:TWL to check newspaper archive and there any several mentions of this guy from the 1960s. However, it appears to me to be routine coverage as it is just announcements of his talk in the various towns he saw in his speaking tour. The talk appears to be basically that he went to africa and is going to tell people about it. I don't really think that makes him notable. I say routine coverage as they were not presented as reported stories with by-line but more like guest speaker announcements by the churches he was visiting. I don't really see stuff from the 80s to show that his beliefs were notable outside of the church he practiced in. Czarking0 (talk) 15:27, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The sources in the article don't show notability, they describe a pastor doing church things, that's rather routine. Oaktree b (talk) 15:56, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Unfortunately this looks like a bit of a walled garden. That will need some more cleanup. I'm going to see what I can prod. Jahaza (talk) 19:44, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge I propose this is merged into the Louton family article. The family biographer, Rollin G. Grams (also a family member), conducted an in-depth study of the family's influence as one of his academic projects, and the book very clearly documents the family's influence as a missionary power bloc in South Africa. However, agree with nom that the subject is not notable independent of his family. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fredthefighter (talk • contribs) 16:18, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, I'm not even sure the family is notable. A bunch of non-notable people lumped together doesn't make notability. Oaktree b (talk) 20:02, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to A. G. Louton if that article is kept, as they have a combined notability working together in South Africa, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:21, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: See the references already present in the article. Лисан аль-Гаиб (talk) 11:58, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to A. G. Louton without notoriety 200.46.55.111 (talk) 23:12, 4 August 2025 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE Geschichte (talk) 06:19, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Merge. Per others above and the WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS. Other reviewers should be cognizant of the single purpose contributions to these and other articles relating to the Louton family. GuardianH 23:47, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The Louton family article was also deleted, so this can't be redirected there. Oaktree b (talk) 04:17, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gianni Profita

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For years, this promotional article has been used to spread false information. First of all, the person is presented as a "philanthropist," although he has never been a philanthropist. Also, the "Academic career" section is completely false, as this person has never taught at any of the listed universities.

Overall, the only two pieces of information that are actually true are the brief period as director of the Italian organization SIAE, and the current position as rector of a private university that he founded himself. In my opinion, these two pieces of information alone are not sufficient to consider someone encyclopedic.

If it is decided to keep the article, be very careful with the information it contains, because some websites copy content from Wikipedia, resulting in the amplification of false or questionable claims. Eritr (talk) 09:03, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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How do I vote for deletion?? DuckieDuckInfo (talk) 19:26, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:DISCUSSAFD. In brief, you just have to write "Delete". Eritr (talk) 08:03, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Not much sources. Promotional. ~Rafael! (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 16:11, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete.

Sources are scarce, and this whole article is subjective and contains false information. Trutter20 (talk) 05:15, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rahim Sopori

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Promotional tone, AI content, nomination from @Pythoncoder:. Sushidude21! (talk) 04:36, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, notable scholar even with bad writing. Also hard to "promote" someone born in the 18th century Microplastic Consumer (talk) 04:42, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - the article is in poor shape and needs substantial rewriting (currently in the middle of that), but AfD is not cleanup, and I have no reason to doubt the sources provided (unless someone with more knowledge can shed some light on them). Promotional tone is not a reason to delete. Jdcooper (talk) 14:45, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank You! MateenSalimBhat (talk) 07:47, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The subject is clearly notable and meets the WP:GNG criteria, especially since this is not a BLP case. You can find in-depth coverage about the subject in reliable sources such as Greater Kashmir, Kashmir Pen, and [109] several others. If there's an issue with the tone, it can certainly be fixed, deletion is not the only option. Baqi:) (talk) 14:29, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sources are fine, the major source used (per this) is a book published by Sahitya Akademi (who are generally reputable) and written by Muhammad Amin Shakeeb, a researcher who held a cultural and education ministry role in the Government of Kashmir. Everything else seems fine with the exception of citation two (which was self published) Microplastic Consumer (talk) 21:27, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If anything, page numbers would be nice. But that's about it. Microplastic Consumer (talk) 21:30, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as per above User's comments. Needs rewriting as well. Behappyyar (talk) 05:34, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Naughton

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Secondary sources about his programming career don't show any significant coverage, only sparse mentions of him alongside many other Sun employees. Being part of the 13-people team that developed the earliest versions of Java does not make one worthy of a stand-alone article. He briefly appeared in the news due to a criminal prosecution, but not everyone who is prosecuted for a crime deserves a stand-alone page either. The defense used in his trial was scarcely "novel" or invented by his lawyer, because it had already been successfully used in 1995, 5 years prior. The crime was not unusual even for the time and the trial was immediately forgotten by the media after it ended. V. S. Video (talk) 00:14, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Almost notable as the programmer, the crime doesn't seem that notable either. Sources are brief mentions, as explained. I don't see much more about this individual. Oaktree b (talk) 01:09, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ZDNet contributor piece from 2000 [110], I really don't know how RS that is. ZD Net was a big deal back in the day. Oaktree b (talk) 01:10, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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delete: The book he wrote could have saved this but it's also non-notable. ^{themoon@talk:~$} 12:25, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There is an obvious redirect target: Java (programming language). The article subject is mentioned in the History section. Pavlor (talk) 05:36, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: There certainly seems to be in-depth coverage in reliable sources. AFAICT the ZDnet coverage (1 2), WSJ (3), and others (Google news) satisfy GNG. Caleb Stanford (talk) 21:14, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

These sources are all about his prosecution. People who are discussed in depth by secondary sources for only one event are usually not notable. V. S. Video (talk) 21:27, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Lirwana Abdourahmane

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Subject does not meet GNG. However, the article focuses more on the subject's arrest (which may be notable) than the subject's bio. Uncle Bash007 (talk) 16:44, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Can this be rescued? Bearian (talk) 01:26, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The subject's arrest has received significant coverage from multiple independent and reliable sources. This level of attention suggests the topic meets the notability guidelines. If the article currently focuses too much on the arrest, it can be improved and expanded. Ridzaina (talk) 04:58, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article is covered by reliable international sources like Front Line Defenders, FIDH, and Jeune Afrique not just for his arrest, but for his role as a lawyer and human rights defender in Niger. His work with civil society and legal defense of protesters got wide, independent attention. The article meets notability because multiple sources talk about his activism, not just one event. Instead of deleting, the article can be improved with more detail on his career. Gwanki (talk) 10:31, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per WP:HEY: it has been rescued. Bearian (talk) 02:22, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ali Nasser Abulaban

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Microceleb who appeared in the news due to a single crime, BLP1E. V. S. Video (talk) 23:19, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – The subject satisfies the criteria outlined in WP:GNG, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Multiple reliable outlets have provided sustained coverage, including but not limited to NBC News, CBS News, Fox 5 San Diego, and other national media such as Court TV. Furthermore, the case has inspired the documentary by G-Unit Film & Television for Peacock, signaling ongoing cultural and public interest beyond transient news.

This does not fall under WP:BLP1E because the coverage spans more than one article or news cycle, has lasted over multiple years, and continues to influence media narratives such as https://time.com/6991356/tiktok-star-murders-true-story-peacock/. WP:BLP1E is intended to address subjects whose only claim to notability stems from brief, uncontextualized mentions in the wake of a single event. The way I see it, that is not applicable here, where the subject has been the focus of entire features, that being his televised trial footage, and follow-up reporting across platforms showing the shape of social media as a whole.

Under WP:BIO1E and WP:BLPCRIME exceptions are made when the event has coverage or social significance. This is consistent with WP:CRIME, which does not prohibit articles about perpetrators of notable crimes so long as content adheres to WP:BLP, is properly sourced, and not written in a sensational tone.

The article does not violate WP:UNDUE nor WP:NOTNEWS, as the level of media attention received is both significant and ongoing. The subject has become a public figure by virtue of court proceedings, media exposure, and public commentary on the trial, thus meeting the test under WP:PUBLICFIGURE.

Furthermore when doing some digging I have seen that some articles about individuals known primarily for a criminal event could be found. Such as

For the page Murder of Laci Peterson, Scott Peterson, is moved to a subsection of the page, if it would be the case that Ali Nasser Abulaban is not notable, but his crime, then would not moving his page, WP:MERGE, WP:ATD-M or rewriting the format to reflect this be wise.

Concerns about WP:BLP are editorial, not grounds for deletion. If tone, citations, or neutrality are in question, they should be addressed via normal editing per WP:PRESERVE and WP:FIXIT, not deletion. A subject’s criminal status does not preclude article inclusion per WP:NOTCENSORED and WP:WELLKNOWN, provided policies are properly followed.

— Issac I Navarro (talk) 05:37, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per BLP1E. Devopam (talk) 07:47, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I am slightly kneenly on delete though the crime was covered by notable multiple media houses but failed BLP1E if their happen to be another notable contributions i will gladly revert my votes for keep 9lives (talk) 10:38, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@9lives – Respectfully, how is this case different from Watts family murders, Gypsy-Rose Blanchard, or Murder of Laci Peterson? All were single-event crimes but remain notable due to extensive media coverage and continued public interest. As for Ali Nasser Abulaban the makeing of the Peacock documentary shows that there was national media interest in this specific case, much like there was for the 2022 University of Idaho murders. The documentaries have also been covered by major outlets reviewing the substance of the documentary. Would then Ali Nasser Abulaban then too be notable for the murders and the documentary about them?

While I can see that a bio page about him may not be notable due to WP:SINGLEEVENT, WP:NOTBLP1E, however, would the substances of the murders be? I am reading up on Wikipedia's policies to see what makes him different with past precedent. Issac I Navarro (talk) Issac I Navarro (talk) 16:44, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Issac I Navarro: you do have a point though but wikipedia is base on notability guildeline, anyway i have strike my delete vote base on the media coverage it recieved 9lives (talk) 15:23, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Chikwendummesonma and 9lives: –Thank you. While I understand that Wikipedia is based on notability guidelines, it seems a bit fuzzy when it comes to crimes such as these. I have yet to locate guidelines that outine what specifically might make a page such as Ali Nasser Abulaban, different from a page such as Gypsy-Rose Blanchard. Would it be wise if I asked this question on the WP:THQ "Ask a question" for a better explanation and guidance? Issac I Navarro (talk) 02:29, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Good noticed you have already been at [111]9lives (talk) 16:37, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete fails WP:GNG It is possible that your career or what you do has come to an end, even the TikTok account was suspended. 200.46.55.111 (talk) 02:02, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Larry Gilhuly

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WP:BLP of a grass agronomist, not properly referenced as having a strong claim to passing any inclusion criteria. As always, people are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist as people with jobs -- the notability isn't in saying that they did stuff, it's in showing that they received WP:GNG-worthy reliable source media coverage about the stuff they did, to establish that it's been externally validated as historically significant by somebody other than his own employers. But this is referenced entirely to primary source content self-published by organizations he was directly affiliated with and/or employed by, and isn't citing a single GNG-worthy source at all.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have much, much better referencing than this. Bearcat (talk) 16:09, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to United States Golf Association I am torn vs keep on this one. Google searching does not give many good sources past this.^[1] However WP:TWL has a lot of hits on him. Unfortunately it is either stuff he wrote or a lot of things like this here he is mentioned in passing.^[2]^[3] Overall I think he is an expert in his field. He fails WP:GNG however I could potentially see him being notable as a golf expert like similar to coaching rules under WP:SPORT or potentially as WP:NAUTHOR? I think he is widely cited by peers and he does write about golf. Only I don't know if it is a stretch to apply author criteria here? However, most of this work was done in his capacity at USGA. To me this syas we could add a few sentences about him there and redirect.Czarking0 (talk) 16:29, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.golfcoursetrades.com/the-life-of-a-usga-agronomist/
^ Wood K. Plenty of Educational Opportunities in Vancouver. GreenMaster. 2005;40(6):30-31. Accessed July 26, 2025.
^ Robinson B. A contrast in confidence. Golf World. 2000;54(8):80. Accessed July 26, 2025.

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Max Wolff (soldier)

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Non notable WW2 soldier. Fails WP:BIO. Medals in and of themselves do not show notability. Single reference. Fails WP:V. Likely fail of WP:NOTMEMORIAL. This dates back to Wikipedia's Wild West days where having articles at all was the goal, with WP:N and WP:V taking a back seat. My WP:BEFORE finds no useful references, though there is material available nothing meeting our strict criteria was found. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 09:03, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I do not speak Portuguese, but the corresponding article at pt.wp seems to have additional sources. In particular, this book published by the Escola de Comando e Estado-Maior do Exército (the Brazilian equivalent of the United States Army War College?) seems to provide a lot of significant coverage. Additionally, it states on p. 120 that he was arguably the most famous Brazilian soldier of WW2; while we'd do best to take such statements by a single source with a grain of salt, it indicates he could have additional coverage as a John Basilone-type figure; indeed he did receive what I think is the Brazilian equivalent of the Medal of Honor, the Combat Cross, 1st class. Curbon7 (talk) 12:03, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know that I'd go that far. It appears to have been created especially for World War II, and we can't tell from the linked article how many were awarded or under what circumstances. He may be notable, but it would be better to see broader coverage. Intothat darkness 12:30, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Medals from the 'Forgotten Ally' of WWII - Militarytrader According to this article, the number awarded was 643 of the 1st class for personal bravery. Frustratingly, they have access to a source I don't, specifically an article in the 74th annual bulletin of the Brazilian numismatic society by Lt. Col. Julio Fidalgo Zary, where they have sourced their number. I have only been able to find the specific document behind a paywall, which is disappointing. Eustathius (talk) 02:39, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Notable, considered a war hero and patron of ESA [112], [113]. Svartner (talk) 01:11, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, as others have stated, there is a wealth of Portuguese language material about the man that can be considered reliable, so deletion seems rash. I would advocate translating sections from the Portuguese article to improve the depth and quality of the current article. Eustathius (talk) 01:56, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Significant coverage in multiple secondary sources. MmeMaigret (talk) 18:18, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stuart Schuffman

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Non-notable former travel writer and current dive bar reviewer. Subject does not appear to pass notability, as subject does not fulfill WP:ANYBIO. Individual is verifiable in tertiary sources as a local figure, but for a WP:BLP individual does not appear notable. I have cleaned up the article, removed extensive sources attributable to subject's personal website and added reliable sources, toned down claims and promotional language. After this I've come to the conclusion that they are just not notable. Longstanding maintenece tags. Nayyn (talk) 01:28, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:

People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.

Coverage in sources

Sources

Bastone, Nick (2022-09-23). ""Broke-Ass Stuart" celebrates 20 years in San Francisco". Axios. Archived from the original on 2022-09-23. Retrieved 2025-07-27.
The article notes: "Stuart Schuffman — better known to locals as "Broke-Ass Stuart" — is a self-described performer, activist and trouble-maker. But foremost, Schuffman told Axios in a recent interview, he's a writer. And for the past 20 years, he's lived in San Francisco and chronicled his adventures. ... Schuffman first arrived in San Francisco in the summer of 2002, for a summer internship with the entertainment group Bill Graham Presents, and living in a shared room on Haight Street with his friend Mani."
Whiting, Sam (2024-07-28). "Broke-Ass Stuart counteracts 'doom loop' with pro-S.F. literary magazine". San Francisco Chronicle. Archived from the original on 2024-08-09. Retrieved 2025-07-27.
The article notes: "Broke-Ass Stuart got somebody else to pay for publication of his first literary magazine, and he got a third party to pay for the beer. All he had to do, in his role as editor-in-cheap, was stand at the entrance of Jack Kerouac Alley and absorb the credit from a crowd that overflowed the alley onto the sidewalk of City Lights Books and onto Columbus Avenue. ... Stuart, who has built a small industry out of his ability to survive on the cheap in one of the world's most expensive cities, had time for a side project because he is not running for mayor this time. The field is too crowded already, so he approached the Civic Joy Fund, a nonprofit arts and small business organization that is trying to drive economic recovery in the city."
Gentile, Dan (2021-08-24). "San Francisco's eternally young, broke and beautiful media icon tells all: How Broke-Ass Stuart turned a zine into a career". SFGate. Archived from the original on 2024-08-15. Retrieved 2025-07-27.
The article notes: "The compliment was aimed at Stuart Schuffman, better known as the personality and primary voice behind the digital publication Broke-Ass Stuart. ... In the mid-aughts, he was just a guy who moved to S.F. after graduating from UC Santa Cruz’s American studies department. That degree scored him a sweet job working the counter at a candy shop, one of many odd jobs ranging from hat store clerk to librarian. When a customer gave him a business card that listed travel writer as their profession, Schuffman was inspired to start writing himself. The result was “Broke-Ass Stuart’s Guide to Living Cheaply in San Francisco,” a 33-page zine which he distributed via “bus pass and shoes.” The zine made it into 30 retail shops, then evolved into an arts and culture blog in 2008, then a six-city travel show on IFC that aired in 2011, a stint writing for Lonely Planet, a long-running S.F. Examiner column that he recently shifted over to SF Weekly."
Vaughan, Joel W. (Summer 2015). "Love Notes and Other Disasters". Broken Pencil. No. 68. p. 50. ProQuest 1700690458.
The article notes: "Love Notes and Other Disasters Nonfiction/poetry zine, Broke-Ass Stuart, brokeasssstuart.com, $5. Broke-Ass Stuart begins this compendium of work with a stage-setting introduction: ... The zine is an ode to San Francisco in the same way Gatsby is an ode to New York, only Fitzgerald wasn't so concerned with making his reader think he was cool and writerly. Stuart is often clever, notably in "Living in San Francisco Means," and makes memorable commentary in "Rent Control in San Francisco is a Golden Handcuff," but mingles his insights with cringe-worthy self-affirmations"
Roisman, Jon (2015-05-22). "Broke but happy hustler celebrates 2nd bar mitzvah". J. The Jewish News of Northern California. Archived from the original on 2023-05-28. Retrieved 2025-07-27.
The article notes: " Stuart Schuffman is living on a shoestring in San Francisco - and you can too. He's happy to share the wealth of knowledge he's acquired on how to live frugally and yet still enjoy the Bay Area's thriving arts and entertainment scene. Just go to brokeassstuart.com. The 34-year-old initially launched his website to sell his creative magazines (or "zines") and T-shirts when he arrived in San Francisco in 2002. Since then, he's expanded his site to become an arts and culture destination, especially for millennials. ... Schuffman grew up in San Diego in "a kind of Jewish neighborhood," attended a Reform synagogue and had his bar mitzvah at the typical age of 13. ... He has published three travel books, had his own travel show ("Young, Broke and Beautiful") on IFC, and has written "for every rag in town." Schuffman claims more than 17,000 followers on Facebook and nearly 16,000 followers on Twitter."
Caramanica, Jon (2011-06-24). "Finding the Offbeat Off the Beaten Path". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2024-06-26. Retrieved 2025-07-27.
The article notes: "Where Rhett and Link look upon their subjects with genuine affection and thinly veiled amusement, Stuart Schuffman views his with awe. His show “Young, Broke & Beautiful,” which follows “Commercial Kings,” is a travel show that skips the center for the fringes, taking him to the sorts of places that would give those Frommer’s guys the willies. (Mr. Schuffman has written a few frugal city guides of his own.) Every city has its oddball denizens, its dirty, screaming bands, its delicious greasy spoons known to only a select few. Mr. Schuffman addresses his cities through that lens. In the premiere he tackles San Diego, where he grew up, visiting a childhood friend who’s now a D.J., wiping out at a skate park and checking out the revolution-theme murals at Chicano Park."
Abcarian, Robin (2015-10-30). "Not everyone in San Francisco loves the tech culture". Los Angeles Times. Archived from the original on 2025-07-27. Retrieved 2025-07-27.
The article notes: "Stuart Schuffman, aka Broke-Ass Stuart, is a blogger, author of books on living frugally, and self-promoter par excellence. He is explaining why he should replace the city’s incumbent mayor, Ed Lee, when voters go to the polls on Tuesday. ... Five underfunded candidates are challenging Lee. Schuffman, 34, is the best known of what must be considered, at best, a protest slate. His slogan on campaign posters that have popped up all over town: “Go for Broke.”Schuffman, whose previous elective experience was vice president of University City High School in San Diego, is a Democratic socialist who wants more affordable housing, more public toilets, higher taxes on developers, fewer tax breaks for tech companies and more civic engagement by the people benefiting economically from the tech boom."
Barton, Chris (2011-07-17). "Overrated / Underrated". Los Angeles Times. Archived from the original on 2025-07-27. Retrieved 2025-07-27.
The article notes: "‘Young, Broke & Beautiful’ on IFC: Traveling on a budget is clearly the way to go these days, but as handy as some tips are by blogger-turned-TV-personality Stuart Schuffman, his show falls short on the payoff. A tireless self-promoter, Schuffman simply can’t stop repeating his unprintable catchphrase describing his mode of travel, and with predictable stops at tiki bars and steampunk gatherings, his tastes aren’t as edgy as he thinks."
Dickey, Megan Rose (2024-07-24). "SF literary magazine seeks to counter "doom loop" narrative". Axios. Archived from the original on 2025-07-27. Retrieved 2025-07-27.
The article notes: "Stuart Schuffman, perhaps better known as Broke-Ass Stuart, has heard enough about the "doom loop," so he decided to counteract the narrative by leaning into San Francisco's "wonderful literary tradition," Schuffman told Axios."
Kukura, Joe (2022-10-13). "Broke-Ass Stuart Celebrates 20 Years of Being 'Broke-Ass Stuart' In San Francisco". SFist. Archived from the original on 2025-07-27. Retrieved 2025-07-27.
The article notes: "Local bon vivant Broke-Ass Stuart broke the mold with two decades of hustling as a travel writer, TV host, and mayoral candidate, and celebrates 20 years of his SF penny-pinching shenanigans with a Public Works party Thursday and a new zine. It was 20 years ago when a young San Diego lad fresh out of UC Santa Cruz named Stuart Schuffman arrived in San Francisco, and would slowly transform into the local celebrity persona known as Broke-Ass Stuart."

There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Stuart Schuffman to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

Cunard (talk) 23:28, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I have condensed Cunard's list into a collapsible wrapper for readability purposes. Feel free to revert if this isn't something you are okay with. -- BriefEdits (talk) 22:11, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sam Mangel

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Doesn't meet WP:NBIO; the subject has not received significant or in-depth coverage in multiple, reliable secondary sources that's independent of the subject. Some1 (talk) 23:14, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The article does not meet WP:N and WP:BIO. Most available sources amount to passing or superficial mentions—insufficient for sustained encyclopedic treatment. For example, mainstream coverage on his work with high‑profile clients like Steve Bannon or Sam Bankman‑Fried lacks the in‑depth biographical treatment required by WP:N.--Policking (talk) 12:48, 23 July 2025 (UTC)— Policking (talk · contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Unclethepoter (talk · contribs). [reply]
Keep I created this article 7 months ago and it remained stable and uncontroversial until a confirmed sockpuppet network got into an edit war with an anonymous editor. The subject's notability is established by the original reliable sources, which include a 1000+ word profile of Mangel in The Times (a 240 year old newspaper of record in the UK), Semafor (website), CNN, The Palm Beach Post, California Business Journal, and many others. Schnookums123 (talk) 23:47, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Times, Semafor, and CNN sources are interviews, so they are primary sources and are not independent. — 🌊PacificDepths (talk) 05:12, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It only took a week after the article was created for the sockpuppets to show up, so the article hasn't really been stable or uncontroversial for long. Some1 (talk) 23:12, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Semafor, Times, and the Business Insider coverage have enough content from a third party perspective apart from just an interview - enough for a substantive Wikipedia article that meets notability for people. Guna Borah (talk · contrib) 07:51, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Sources classified as:

Profiles based off interviews: The Times, Semafor, CNN. These are primary sources and are not independent.
Primary or near-primary sources like court documents or parroting of government indictments like Palm Beach Post
Quotes that do not provide significant coverage of the subject, usually around being a "prison consultant": in the Miami Herald about Peter Navarro, or in Fortune story about Sam Bankman-Fried.
The California Business Journal profile constitutes significant coverage, but I don't think this is a reliable source. There is no editorial board or journalism code of ethics.

— 🌊PacificDepths (talk) 05:19, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for starting the discussion regarding the California Business Journal at the RSN. According to comments at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard § California Business Journal reliable for notability in profiles?, the CBJ is unreliable for assessing notability and seems to write promotional puff pieces for pay. Some1 (talk) 23:08, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Agree with 🌊PacificDepths's comment about the sources. So far, WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS, and citations that don't satisfy WP:SIGCOV. GuardianH 21:02, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Craig Rothfeld

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Doesn't meet WP:NBIO; the subject has not received significant or in-depth coverage in multiple, reliable secondary sources that's independent of the subject. Some1 (talk) 23:13, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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* Delete per nom.--Policking (talk) 12:51, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This biography clears both WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. High‑reliability, independent sources have published substantive, multi‑paragraph coverage that examines the subject’s career, regulatory history and public impact. The New York Times, South China Morning Post, Financial PLanning and NBC NY are a few. These sources — reinforced by FINRA disciplinary filings and the Manhattan District Attorney’s annual report — deliver the sustained, reliable scrutiny that establishes notability and verifiability. The presence of COI and promotional‑tone tags reflects editing needs not a failure of sourcing. As WP:NOTCLEANUP states, pages with solid, verifiable content should be improved, not removed. Deleting this article would obliterate reliable, encyclopedic material that already satisfies Wikipedia’s core inclusion standards. --Appro7 (talk) 00:07, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Appro7 created the article (very likely in violation of WP:PAID), and there's a history of sockpuppetry problems, including possible COI/UPE issues, with the article and its creation. Unfortunately most of the sources used in this article are primary sources or sources that just mention the subject in passing (e.g. "[Celebrity] hired [subject] to help with this"). I would like to hear what uninvolved experienced editors have to say about the notability of this subject, because I believe the article should at least go back to draftspace or through the AFC process (the move to mainspace is a bit suspect[114]). Some1 (talk) 01:24, 26 July 2025 (UTC) Some1 (talk) 23:05, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There's significant independent coverage here, though there seems to be WP:REFSPAM with passing mentions (such as the New York Times piece currently used). Hmr (talk) 22:11, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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* Keep It seems very suspect that people would target this person, who is well-known, regularly cited in reputable media, and is clearly notable enough to warrant a Wikipedia page. I'd like to point out that Policking has been confirmed as a sockpuppet and banned indefinitely, and is the only person who seems interested in deleting this page. Aceofquade (talk) 16:37, 5 August 2025

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 12:45, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ronald Bauer

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Doesn't meet WP:NBIO; the subject has not received significant or in-depth coverage in multiple, reliable secondary sources that's independent of the subject. Some1 (talk) 23:08, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Article seems to be promotional in tone and fails WP:NBIO. Need more reliable sources apart from the [executive].--Policking (talk) 17:35, 24 July 2025 (UTC)— Policking (talk · contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Unclethepoter (talk · contribs). [reply]
Keep – Full disclosure: I created this article in March 2025. As the primary strategist behind what the SEC called one of “the most complex microcap stock fraud schemes” ever, Bauer meets notability requirements. The sources back this up.
- Investment Executive – National finance‑press report dissecting Bauer’s guilty plea and recapping his market activity. Independent, mainstream coverage demonstrating enduring public interest. This meets significant, reliable, secondary under WP:GNG.
- Law360 - Detailed legal story chronicling Bauer’s extradition fight.
- Compliance Week – Investigative compliance magazine feature that unpacks the $194 million pump‑and‑dump scheme step‑by‑step. The depth and analysis back up Bauer’s notability beyond routine reportage.
- BDO Canada (BDO Global) - One of Canada's largest accounting firms lays out details of "the Bauer Ring." This analysis from a major accounting firm shows the case's impact and discussion within the professional financial/legal community, corroborating the widespread attention noted in mainstream press.
- Stephenson Harwood briefing – International law‑firm commentary detailing the £100 million share‑ramping plea. Reliable legal insight confirming the scale and notoriety of the case.
- United States Department of Justice – Multiple official statements detailing charges, plea, and 20‑month sentence underscore the case’s gravity.
- United States Securities and Exchange Commission civil complaint & judgment – Provide a documented regulatory history that secondary outlets reference, further establishing the subject’s public footprint.

The nominator filed the AfD alongside three other pages that figured in a prior sockpuppet probe the nominator participated in; one of those pages has already been kept. While past editing misconduct is real, the AfD process is for judging article content against policy, not litigating old behavioral disputes. That principle should prevail here as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arcticwindowpane (talk • contribs) 19:43, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the sources you listed are primary sources, not high quality reliable secondary sources that cover the subject in depth. Unfortunately this and the other three articles suffer from COI/UPE and sockpuppetry issues. At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cora Systems, an article which you also created, an editor said The clear WP:PAID / WP:COI / WP:PROMO overtones, in the article's creation and its tone/intent, are also very very difficult to overlook. I see the same issues here with this article too, and would like to hear from uninvolved experienced editors about whether this article meets WP:NBIO or not, because I don't believe it does. Some1 (talk) 22:56, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: This looks like WP:BLP1E, and the event itself is not notable. Here is a source assessment table for all citations except ComplianceWeek and Law360 (paywalled).

Source assessment table prepared by User:PacificDepths
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
BDO Canada		Company blog, not a reliable news source	Does not discuss subject in detail	✘ No
Investment Executive			~ Two things subject did, but not a lot of information about the subject	~ Partial
Stephenson Harwood	Repeats SEC filing	Company blog	~	✘ No
USDOJ press release	Is directly involved with subject	Not editorially independent	~	✘ No
Fox School of Business	Subject is faculty			✘ No
Durango Gold Fund SEC Form C	Primary source			✘ No
DeSmog				✘ No
Fire Nation Podcast	interview			✘ No
California Business Journal		Site does not have editor or staff page, nor journalism code of ethics		✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

— 🌊PacificDepths (talk) 04:37, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I agree with the analysis by PacificDepths. The California Business Journal article looks like a puff piece. The subject doesn't meet WP:GNG and is even farther from meeting WP:NCRIMINAL. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:24, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Adding on to my !vote: Even if we include the paywalled Compliance Week and Law360 (my guess is that only Law360 has SIGCOV of the subject), the subject would still not meet WP:NCRIMINAL. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:59, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Agree with the reviewers above and the source table in particular is especially proving that this particular subject falls short of notability. GuardianH 03:20, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Muhammad Ishaq Khattak (officer)

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No significant coverage in reliable sources, including from any of the references currently present. Most of the article is currently not verified by the citations. A WP:BEFORE did not find anything to support notability, although Urdu-language sources may have something. I suggest redirecting to List of serving generals of the Pakistan Army. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:02, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep a two star general (3rd highest active rank in Pakistan Army) with country's second highest award (Hilal-i-Imtiaz). Clearly Passes WP:ANYBIO. Behappyyar (talk) 16:23, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Behappyyar, if WP:GNG is not met, it doesn't matter if the subject meets WP:ANYBIO. See community consensus that "no subject-specific notability guideline supersedes the General Notability Guideline". ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:27, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AirshipJungleman29 The rank of major general, combined with being a Hilal-i-Imtiaz (Military; the second highest award), reflects a career of national-level distinction. These are not routine achievements.
As per WP:NOTE: "The barometer of notability is whether reliable sources cover the subject in significant detail." In military contexts, however, high-ranking officers are often not profiled in depth unless involved in controversy. Behappyyar (talk) 17:26, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Every major general of Pakistan (of whom there are currently 186) has received the Hilal-i-Imtiaz; that is the routine purpose of the award. Yes, if an officer, no matter how high-ranking, has not received coverage in reliable sources, they are not notable. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:31, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AirshipJungleman29 Your assertion here is factually incorrect, it is not the case that every Major General in Pakistan receives the Hilal-i-Imtiaz. There is no official policy mandating this. Even if a significant number are awarded it, that does not diminish its status as a nationally recognized honor (2nd highest award) explicitly listed under WP:ANYBIO.

More importantly, WP:ANYBIO does not require an award to be rare, it requires that the subject has received a "widely recognized honor or award at a national level" or "held a significant command position in a national military organization." This subject satisfies both conditions: a two-star general and a recipient of the Hilal-i-Imtiaz.

Additionally, coverage in reliable sources is a requirement of WP:GNG, but it is not a requirement of WP:ANYBIO. As per WP:N:

"Satisfying any one of the notability guidelines is sufficient for notability."

Behappyyar (talk) 17:53, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind pointing out where WP:N states that latter quote Behappyyar? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:46, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AirshipJungleman29 I wrote it in my own words. Here is the exact quote:

A topic is presumed to merit an article if:

It meets either the general notability guideline (GNG) below, or the criteria outlined in a subject-specific notability guideline (SNG). Behappyyar (talk) 19:02, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And what are the criteria outlined in the subject-specific notability guideline? You are looking for WP:NBASIC, which requires "significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject". WP:ANYBIO is part of the "additional criteria", where people "are likely to be notable" but "meeting one or more [criteria] does not guarantee that a subject should be included".

If an article does not meet the basic criteria but meets the additional criteria, you should look at the section titled "Failing basic criteria but meeting additional criteria". There, you see that the best solution is to "Merge the article into a broader article providing context." In this case, I suggest merging or redirecting to List of serving generals of the Pakistan Army.

I think this encompassses my full argument, and will not be responding further in this nomination. Best wishes, ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:21, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Siding with AirshipJungleman29 here. The biggest issue is simply the lack of significant coverage in reliable, independent sources (WP:GNG) for this general. The Hilal-i-Imtiaz award is routinely given to every major general in the Pakistan Army. So, it's a common service award, not something that automatically makes someone notable for their own Wikipedia page, especially when there aren't in-depth articles written about them elsewhere. Wikipedia's WP:N policy is clear: just because someone might fit a subject-specific guideline like WP:ANYBIO, it doesn't matter if we can't find solid, independent sources to actually write the article from. Rackaballa (talk) 01:46, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If a subject meets the criteria under WP:ANYBIO, they are presumed notable — and in that case (for army person who holds an major office or command), the level of "significant coverage" required under WP:GNG is not necessary. Behappyyar (talk) 06:31, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: The nominator has initiated two deletion discussions with similar reasoning. One for this article and another for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zafar Iqbal Marwat, where the outcome was keep. Since both subjects are of similar notability (as Major Generals in Pakistan Army, high level offices holder and Hilal-i-Imtiaz recipients), the same reasoning for keeping Zafar Iqbal Marwat should reasonably apply here as well.

Aheria

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Qualified for deletion policy, unsourced, one line article. Dolphish (talk) 05:38, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The first reference would normally seem to be adequate, but some people distrust pre-1947 sources. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 11:42, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – Per WP:OFFLINE. If one or more cited sources are not reliable, a more in-depth analysis is warranted, but saying that the article is unsourced as pointed out by the nominator does not proceed. Svartner (talk) 09:21, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Svartner and Eastmain. Behappyyar (talk) 05:06, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ivan Raković

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Delete per non-notable BLP with no SIGCOV. Being mentioned in a source as a referee for an event does not establish notability. Isaidnoway (talk) 06:29, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Well known the subject. Sources have been added in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by G-Lignum (talk • contribs) 07:00, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete don't see WP:SIGCOV and so doesn't look to meet WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:34, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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One of the best, well-known and senior referees in the global water polo. The sources listed are all fine. G-Lignum (talk) 16:13, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Which source in the article has significant coverage of the subject? I've look at the sources and can not find anything but a passing mention of the subject. Isaidnoway (talk) 06:05, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I found these sources after your kind request; EuroLeague Women Final Game; Lecture by IR; Appointed Referees for FINA World Championships. Thanks! G-Lignum (talk) 21:12, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Strictly Ballroom (band) (3rd nomination)

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[2] Wood K. Plenty of Educational Opportunities in Vancouver. GreenMaster. 2005;40(6):30-31. Accessed July 26, 2025.

[3] Robinson B. A contrast in confidence. Golf World. 2000;54(8):80. Accessed July 26, 2025.

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